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Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus

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Chapter 30

1 He who loves his son will continue to whip him, that he may have joy from him in the end. 2 He who chastises his son will have profit from him, and will brag about him among his acquaintances. 3 He who teaches his son will provoke his enemy to jealousy. Before friends, he will rejoice in him. 4 His father dies, and is as though he had not died; for he has left one behind him like himself. 5 In his life, he saw his son and rejoiced. When he died, it was without regret. 6 He left behind him an avenger against his enemies, and one to repay kindness to his friends. 7 He who makes too much of his son will bind up his wounds. His heart will be troubled at every cry. 8 An unbroken horse becomes stubborn. An unrestrained son becomes headstrong.⁠ 9 Pamper your child, and he will make you afraid. Play with him, and he will grieve you. 10 Don’t laugh with him, lest you have sorrow with him, and you gnash your teeth in the end. 11 Give him no liberty in his youth, and don’t ignore his follies. 12 Bow down his neck in his youth, and beat him on the sides while he is a child, lest he become stubborn,⁠ and be disobedient to you, and there be sorrow to your soul. 13 Chastise your son, and give him work, lest his shameless behavior be an offense to you.

Health, Cheerfulness, and Riches

14 Better is a poor man who is healthy and fit, than a rich man who is afflicted in his body. 15 Health and fitness are better than all gold, and a strong body better than wealth without measure. 16 There is no wealth better than health of body. There is no gladness above the joy of the heart. 17 Death is better than a bitter life, and eternal rest than a continual sickness.⁠ 18 Good things poured out upon a mouth that is closed are like food offerings laid upon a grave.⁠ 19 What does an offering profit an idol? For it can’t eat or smell. So is he who is punished by the Lord,⁠ 20 seeing with his eyes and groaning, like a eunuch embracing a virgin and groaning. 21 Don’t give your soul to sorrow. Don’t afflict yourself deliberately. 22 Gladness of heart is the life of a man. Cheerfulness of a man lengthens his days. 23 Love your own soul,⁠ and comfort your heart. Remove sorrow far from you, for sorrow has destroyed many, and there is no profit in it. 24 Envy and wrath shorten life. Anxiety brings old age before its time. 25 Those who are cheerful and merry will benefit from their food.

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Compare Sirach 30:12 and Augustine, City of God 22.22

Deuterocanon · Early Christian

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Summary

Sirach teaches that children should be disciplined to prevent disobedience. The Christian theologian Augustine quotes this in City of God, showing that he uses Sirach as an authoritative guide for instruction.

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Sirach 30:12

Deuterocanon · Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus
10 Don’t laugh with him, lest you have sorrow with him, and you gnash your teeth in the end. 11 Give him no liberty in his youth, and don’t ignore his follies. 12 Bow down his neck in his youth, and beat him on the sides while he is a child, lest he become stubborn, and be disobedient to you, and there be sorrow to your soul. 13 Chastise your son, and give him work, lest his shameless behavior be an offense to you. 14 Better is a poor man who is healthy and fit, than a rich man who is afflicted in his body.
195–180 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Sirach

Augustine, City of God 22.22

Early Christian · On the City of God Against the Pagans
But because God does not wholly desert those whom He condemns, nor shuts up in His anger His tender mercies, the human race is restrained by law and instruction, which keep guard against the ignorance that besets us, and oppose the assaults of vice, but are themselves full of labor and sorrow. For what is the meaning of those many kinds of threats which are used to restrain the folly of children? What is the meaning of tutors, teachers, the birch, the strap, the cane, the schooling which Scripture says must be given a child, “beating him on the sides so that he does not grow stubborn,” and it becomes hardly possible or not possible at all to subdue him? Why all these punishments, except to overcome ignorance and restrain evil desires — these evils with which we come into the world? For why is it that we remember with difficulty, and without difficulty forget?
426 CE (scholarly estimate) Read in Augustine, City of God 22

References

"... As to Augustine’s use of the Book of Ecclesiasticus, it is striking that more than once he quotes a text that is somewhat different from the Vetus Latina, which for the Book of Ben Sira, serves as the traditional Latin text. Since Augustine’s quotations from the Book of Ben Sira have more than once been brought in line with the Greek translation, a thorough investigation into this phenomenon is needed in order to find out whether he had (some) knowledge of the Greek text of the Book of Ecclesiasticus. Apart from Speculum in which Augustine for his quotations from the Book of Ben Sira usually follows the Latin, in his other works he rather frequently appears to correct the Latin Ben Sira quotations according to the Greek. An investigation into this intriguing question would be very useful. Such an in depth inquiry should also take into full consideration whether, and to what extent, St. Augustine has been influenced by a text type of Ecclesiasticus that was already used by St. Cyprian and has even been given its own siglum (K) by Thiele ..."
Pancratius C. Beentjes, “Saint Augustine's Sermons 38-41 on the Book of Ben Sira,” in The Scriptures of Israel in Jewish and Christian Tradition: Essays in Honour of Maarten J. J. Menken, ed. Bart Koet, Steven Moyise, and Joseph Verheyden, NovTSup 148 (Leiden: Brill, 2013), 81–94.

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