Texts in Conversation
In Mark, Jesus says the wedding guests will fast once the bridegroom is taken away from them. In the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus puts off fasting and prayer until the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber.
Share:
2500 BCE
1000+ CE
Mark 2:20
New Testament
18 Now John’s disciples and the Pharisees were fasting. So they came to Jesus and said, “Why do the disciples of John and the disciples of the Pharisees fast, but your disciples don’t fast?” 19 Jesus said to them, “The wedding guests cannot fast while the bridegroom is with them, can they? As long as they have the bridegroom with them they do not fast. 20 But the days are coming when the bridegroom will be taken from them, and at that time they will fast.
Gospel of Thomas 1:104
Nag Hammadi
103 Jesus said, “Blessed is the man who knows where and when the brigands will enter, so that he may rise, gather his domain, and gird his loins before they enter.” 104 They said to Jesus, “Come, let us pray today and let us fast.” Jesus said, “What sin have I committed, or in what have I been defeated? But when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them fast and pray.” 105 Jesus said, “Whoever knows the father and the mother will be called the child of a harlot.”
Search:
Notes and References
“... If fasting, prayer, almsgiving, and dietary observances form a quadrumvirate of praxis in 6 and 14, these customs are also either rejected or redefined elsewhere in the Gospel of Thomas. Fasting, prayer, and sin, for example, are similarly associated in Gos. Thom. 104: They said to Jesus, “Come, let us pray today and let us fast.” Jesus said, “What is the sin that I have committed, or wherein have I been defeated? But when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them fast and pray.” (Gos. Thom. 104.1–3) At first glance, it would seem that Jesus allows fasting in Gos. Thom. 104, although only after the bridegroom has departed from the bridal chamber. This, in fact, is precisely how the parallel saying is interpreted in the Synoptic Gospels. In Mark 2:18-20, for instance, Jesus is asked why the Pharisees and the disciples of John fast but his disciples do not. Jesus responds, “The wedding guests cannot fast while the bridegroom is with them, can they? As long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. The days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast on that day” (Mark 2:19-20; cf. Matt 9:14-15; Luke 5:33-35). According to synoptic tradition, Jesus is the bridegroom and his disciples will indeed fast after his death. Yet, in Gos. Thom. 104, Jesus does not indicate that his followers will pray and fast. In fact, the identity of those who ask Jesus to join them in prayer and fasting is not revealed, and it should not be assumed that those who extend the invitation are Jesus’ disciples (cf. Gos. Thom. 91 and 100, where the precise identity of those who engage Jesus in conversation is not revealed). The meaning of 104 for the readers of Thomas hinges on the question of when the bridegroom will leave the bridal chamber. ...”
Downs, David J.
Alms: Charity, Reward, and Atonement in Early Christianity
(pp. 208-209) Baylor University Press, 2016
* The use of references are not endorsements of their contents. Please read the entirety of the provided reference(s) to understand the author's full intentions regarding the use of these texts.
Your Feedback:
Leave a Comment
Anonymous comments are welcome. All comments are subject to moderation.
1 && show(index - 1)"
@keydown.right.window="open && comments.length > 1 && show(index + 1)">
User Comments
,