1 Enoch 17:4


2 And they brought me to the place of darkness, and to a mountain the point of whose summit reached to heaven. 3 And I saw the places of the luminaries ⌈and the treasuries of the stars⌉ and of the thunder ⌈and⌉ in the uttermost depths, where were a fiery bow and arrows and their quiver, and ⌈⌈a fiery sword⌉⌉ and all the lightnings. 4 And they took me to the living waters, and to the fire of the west, which receives every setting of the sun. 5 And I came to a river of fire in which the fire flows like water and discharges itself into the great sea towards the west. 6 I saw the great rivers and came to the great ⌈river and to the great⌉ darkness, and went to the place where no flesh walks.

Bava Batra 84a

Babylonian Talmud

The Gemara asks: And according to that which entered our mind initially, that the sun is white, doesn’t it redden in the morning and evening? The Gemara answers: In the morning it becomes red as it passes over the site of the roses of the Garden of Eden, whose reflections give the light a red hue. In the evening the sun turns red because it passes over the entrance of Gehenna, whose fires redden the light. And there are those who say the opposite in explaining why the sun is red in the morning and the evening, i.e., in the morning it passes over the entrance of Gehenna, while in the evening it passes over the site of the roses of the Garden of Eden.

 Notes and References

"... This paradisiacal scene is frustrated, however, by reference to the fire of the west in the same verse. Does the author intend for us to associate the mysterious waters of life (living waters) with the fire of the west or are we to understand these extraordinary phenomena as located in two different places? If the latter, then one can easily imagine the life-giving waters situated in the vicinity of the northern ‘mountain of God’ (1 Enoch 17:2) which also is reminiscent of paradise; the tour jumps, then, to the fire which receives every setting sun, another distinct site located in the west. If the life-giving waters are associated with the fire, they too are to be found in the west and hence, should be considered as part of a complex of traditions distinct from paradise. The west, as will be recalled, is frequently associated with the realm of the dead ..."

Bautch, Kelley Coblentz A Study of the Geography of 1 Enoch 17-19: “No One Has Seen What I Have Seen.” (p. 71) Brill, 2003

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