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Sirach

Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus

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Chapter 41

1 O death, how bitter is the memory of you to a man who is at peace in his possessions, to the man who has nothing to distract him and has prosperity in all things, and who still has strength to enjoy food! 2 O death, your sentence is acceptable to a man who is needy and who fails in strength, who is in extreme old age, is distracted about all things,⁠ is perverse, and has lost patience! 3 Don’t be afraid of the sentence of death. Remember those who have been before you and who come after. This is the sentence from the Lord over all flesh. 4 And why do you refuse when it is the good pleasure of the Most High? Whether life lasts ten, or a hundred, or a thousand years, there is no inquiry about life in Hades. 5 The children of sinners are abominable children and they frequent the dwellings of the ungodly.⁠ 6 The inheritance of sinners’ children will perish and with their posterity will be a perpetual disgrace. 7 Children will complain of an ungodly father, because they suffer disgrace because of him. 8 Woe to you, ungodly men, who have forsaken the law of the Most High God!⁠ 9 If you are born, you will be born to a curse. If you die, a curse will be your portion. 10 All things that are of the earth will go back to the earth; so the ungodly will go from a curse to perdition. 11 The mourning of men is about their bodies; but the evil name of sinners will be blotted out. 12 Have regard for your name, for it continues with you longer than a thousand great treasures of gold.⁠ 13 A good life has its number of days, but a good name continues forever.

Shame, Responsibility, and Care for Daughters

14 My children, follow instruction in peace. But wisdom that is hidden and a treasure that is not seen, what benefit is in them both? 15 Better is a man who hides his foolishness than a man who hides his wisdom. 16 Therefore show respect for my words; for it is not good to retain every kind of shame. Not everything is approved by all in good faith. 17 Be ashamed of sexual immorality before father and mother, of a lie before a prince and a mighty man, 18 of an offense before a judge and ruler, of iniquity before the congregation and the people, of unjust dealing before a partner and friend, 19 and of theft in the place where you stay. Be ashamed in regard of the truth of God and his covenant, of leaning on your elbow at dinner, of contemptuous behavior in the matter of giving and taking, 20 of silence before those who greet you, of looking at a woman who is a prostitute, 21 of turning away your face from a kinsman, of taking away a portion or a gift, of gazing at a woman who has a husband, 22 of meddling with his maid—and don’t come near her bed, of abusive speech to friends—and after you have given, don’t insult,

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Compare Sirach 41:8 and Wisdom of Solomon 3:13

Deuterocanon

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Summary

Sirach warns that those who abandon the Torah bring disgrace to themselves and their children, reversing the pattern of children honoring their parents. Wisdom of Solomon builds on this, portraying the fall of sinners and their children as a consequence.

Passages

Sirach 41:8

Deuterocanon · Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus
6 The inheritance of sinners’ children will perish and with their posterity will be a perpetual disgrace. 7 Children will complain of an ungodly father, because they suffer disgrace because of him. 8 Woe to you, ungodly men, who have forsaken the law of the Most High God! 9 If you are born, you will be born to a curse. If you die, a curse will be your portion. 10 All things that are of the earth will go back to the earth; so the ungodly will go from a curse to perdition.
195–180 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Sirach

Wisdom of Solomon 3:13

Deuterocanon
11 for he who despises wisdom and discipline is miserable. Their hope is void and their toils unprofitable. Their works are useless. 12 Their wives are foolish and their children are wicked. 13 Their descendants are cursed. For the barren woman who is undefiled is happy, she who has not conceived in transgression. She will have fruit when God examines souls. 14 So is the eunuch who has done no lawless deed with his hands, nor imagined wicked things against the Lord; for a precious gift will be given to him for his faithfulness, and a delightful inheritance in the Lord’s sanctuary. 15 For good labors have fruit of great renown. The root of understanding can’t fail.
50 BCE – 50 CE (scholarly estimate) Read in the Wisdom of Solomon

References

"... Ben Sira now reflects on the unhappy earthly fate of the wicked (41:5-10), whose descendants are unsuccessful and whose name is a disgrace (Job 18:1721; Psalm 21:11). According to the sage, sinners’ children lose their power and gain dishonor (Wisdom of Solomon 3:17-19; 4:19). Against the usual biblical pattern for family life (Deuteronomy 27:16; Proverbs 31:28), these children will curse a father whose wickedness has caused them disgrace (Wisdom of Solomon 12:10-11). Sirach 41:8 laments those who forsake the Torah (49:4), a great temptation to Ben Sira’s students because of the strong influence of pagan Greek culture around that time (2 Maccabees 4:12-17). Whereas the human body decays (41:11), a good reputation is permanent, more precious than treasures (Proverbs 10:7; 22:1) ..."
Daniel Durken, ed., The New Collegeville Bible Commentary: In One Volume (Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press, 2017), 1275.

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