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Sirach

Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus

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Chapter 19

1 A worker who is a drunkard will not become rich. He who despises small things will fall little by little.⁠ 2 Wine and women will make men of understanding go astray. He who joins with prostitutes is reckless.⁠ 3 Decay and worms will have him as their heritage. A reckless soul will be taken away. 4 He who is hasty to trust is shallow-hearted. He who sins offends against his own soul. 5 He who rejoices in wickedness will be condemned. 6 He who hates gossip has less wickedness. 7 Never repeat what is told you, and you won’t lose anything. 8 Whether it is of friend or foe, don’t tell it. Unless it is a sin to you, don’t reveal it. 9 For if he has heard you and observed you, when the time comes, he will hate you. 10 Have you heard something? Let it die with you. Be brave: it will not make you burst!⁠ 11 A fool will labor in pain with a word, as a woman in labor with a child. 12 As an arrow that sticks in the flesh of the thigh, so is gossip in a fool. 13 Question a friend; it may be he didn’t do it. If he did something, it may be that he may do it no more. 14 Question your neighbor; it may be he didn’t say it. If he has said it, it may be that he may not say it again. 15 Question a friend; for many times there is slander. Don’t trust every word.⁠ 16 There is one who slips, and not from the heart. Who is he who hasn’t sinned with his tongue? 17 Reprove your neighbor before you threaten him; and give place to the law of the Most High.

Wisdom and Folly in Speech and Conduct

20 All wisdom is the fear of the Lord. In all wisdom is the doing of the law. 22 The knowledge of wickedness is not wisdom. The prudence of sinners is not counsel.⁠ 23 There is a wickedness, and it is an abomination. There is a fool lacking in wisdom.⁠ 24 Better is one who has little understanding, and fears God, than one who has much intelligence and transgresses the law. 25 There is an exquisite subtlety, and it is unjust. And there is one who perverts favor to gain a judgment. 26 There is one who does wickedly, who hangs down his head with mourning; but inwardly he is full of deceit, 27 bowing down his face, and pretending to be deaf in one ear. Where he isn’t known, he will take advantage of you. 28 And if for lack of power he is hindered from sinning, if he finds opportunity, he will do mischief. 29 A man will be known by his appearance. One who has understanding will be known by his face when you meet him.⁠ 30 A man’s attire, grinning laughter, and the way he walks show what he is.

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Compare Sirach 19:15 and Plutarch, Moralia 483

Deuterocanon · Classical

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Summary

In Sirach, a reader is told to question a friend before believing an accusation, since the report is often slander. The Greek philosopher Plutarch puts that same step first in a family argument, where a brother is defended before he is rebuked.

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Sirach 19:15

Deuterocanon · Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus
13 Question a friend; it may be he didn’t do it. If he did something, it may be that he may do it no more. 14 Question your neighbor; it may be he didn’t say it. If he has said it, it may be that he may not say it again. 15 Question a friend; for many times there is slander. Don’t trust every word. 16 There is one who slips, and not from the heart. Who is he who hasn’t sinned with his tongue? 17 Reprove your neighbor before you threaten him; and give place to the law of the Most High.
195–180 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Sirach

Plutarch, Moralia 483

Classical
Only after the erring brother has been defended in this manner should the other turn to him and rebuke him somewhat sharply, pointing out with all frankness his errors of commission and of omission. For one should neither give free rein to brothers, nor, again, should one trample on them when they are at fault (for the latter is the act of one who gloats over the sinner, the former that of one who aids and abets him), but should apply his admonition as one who cares for his brother and grieves with him. Otherwise he who has been the most zealous advocate before his parents becomes before the brother himself the most vehement of accusers. But if a brother is guiltless when he is accused, though it is right to be subservient to parents in everything else and to endure all their wrath and displeasure, yet pleas and justifications offered to parents on behalf of a brother who is being undeservedly criticized or punished are honourable and not reprehensible; nor must one be afraid that the words of Sophocles will be addressed to him:
75–100 CE (scholarly estimate) Read in Plutarch, Moralia

References

“... Forgiveness, reconciliation, patience. Finally, ancient moralists stress the importance of practicing forgiveness within the kinship group, of bearing patiently with one another and seeking reconciliation wherever a breach occurs. Plutarch advises that a brother ought to rebuke a brother with all frankness when he errs, “but should apply his admonition as one who cares for his brother and grieves with him” (“On Fraternal Affection” 10 [Mor. 483B], LCL). Gentleness and forbearance are to characterize a sibling’s approach to the fault or injury caused by another. [...] See also Wisdom of Ben Sira 19:13-15 on the possibility that the friend or family member has been slandered and is not truly guilty of the offense of which one suspects him or her ...”
David A. deSilva, Honor, Patronage, Kinship & Purity: Unlocking New Testament Culture (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 2000), 172–174.

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