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Sirach

Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus

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Children and Their Character

Chapter 16

1 Don’t desire many worthless children, or delight in ungodly sons. 2 If they multiply, don’t delight in them unless the fear of the Lord is in them. 3 Don’t trust in their life. Don’t rely on their numbers, for one can be better than a thousand, and it can be better to die childless than to have ungodly children.⁠ 4 For from one who has understanding, a city will be populated, but a race of wicked men will be left desolate. 5 I have seen many such things with my eyes. My ear has heard greater things than these.

Judgment on the Disobedient

6 In a congregation of sinners, a fire will be ignited. In a disobedient nation, anger is ignited.⁠ 7 He was not lenient toward the ancient giants, who revolted in their strength.⁠ 8 He didn’t spare Lot’s neighbors, whom he detested for their pride.⁠ 9 He didn’t pity the people doomed to destruction who were taken away in their sins, 10 or in the same way, the six hundred thousand foot soldiers who were gathered together in the hardness of their hearts.⁠

11 Even if there is one stiff-necked person, it is amazing if he goes unpunished, for mercy and anger are both with him who is mighty to forgive, and he pours out anger. 12 His discipline is as great as his mercy.⁠ He judges a man according to his works.⁠ 13 The sinner will not escape with stolen goods. The perseverance of the godly will not be frustrated. 14 He will make room for every work of mercy. Each man will receive according to his works.⁠

The Claim That God Does Not See

17 Don’t say, “I will be hidden from the Lord. Who will remember me from above? I will not be known among so many people, for what is my soul in a boundless creation? 18 Look, heaven, the heaven of heavens, the deep, and the earth, will shake when he visits.⁠ 19 The mountains and the foundations of the earth together are shaken with trembling when he looks at them. 20 No heart will think about these things. Who could comprehend his ways?⁠ 21 Like a storm that no one can see, most of his works are hidden. 22 Who will declare his works of righteousness? Who will wait for them? For his covenant is far away.” 23 He who is lacking in understanding thinks about these things. A foolish, misguided man thinks foolishly.

The Order of Creation

24 My son, listen to me, learn knowledge, and pay attention to my words with your heart. 25 I will give instruction with precision, and declare knowledge exactly.

26 The Lord’s works have been under his judgment from the beginning. From the time he made them he determined their boundaries.⁠ 27 He arranged his works for all time, and their beginnings for their generations. They aren’t hungry or weary, and they don’t stop their works. 28 No one pushes aside his neighbor. They will never disobey his word. 29 After this also the Lord looked at the earth and filled it with his blessings. 30 Every kind of living things covered its surface, and they return to it.

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Compare Genesis 19:5 and Jesus Ben Sira, Sirach 16:8

Hebrew Bible · Deuterocanon

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Summary

Genesis shows Sodom’s violence when the crowd threatens Lot’s guests with sexual violence. Sirach recalls the city but ties it to pride and selfishness, not sex. This follows Ezekiel, which says Sodom’s real sin was arrogance and neglect of the poor.

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Genesis 19:5

Hebrew Bible
3 But he urged them persistently, so they turned aside with him and entered his house. He prepared a feast for them, including bread baked without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they could lie down to sleep, all the men—both young and old, from every part of the city of Sodom—surrounded the house. 5 They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can take carnal knowledge of them!” 6 Lot went outside to them, shutting the door behind him. 7 He said, “No, my brothers! Don’t act so wickedly!
750–400 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Genesis

Jesus Ben Sira, Sirach 16:8

Deuterocanon · Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus
6 In a congregation of sinners, a fire will be ignited.
In a disobedient nation, anger is ignited.
7 He was not lenient toward the ancient giants,
who revolted in their strength.
8 He didn’t spare Lot’s neighbors,
whom he detested for their pride.
9 He didn’t pity the people doomed to destruction
who were taken away in their sins,
10 or in the same way, the six hundred thousand foot soldiers
who were gathered together in the hardness of their hearts.
195–175 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Jesus Ben Sira, Sirach

References

"... Interestingly, however, there was another tradition that held that the Sodomites' sin actually had nothing to do with homosexual acts or adultery or fornication. Instead, their fault was pride or stinginess, an unwillingness to help the unfortunate of this world. The origin of this other tradition is not hard to find. It comes from a passage in the book of Ezekiel, where the prophet compares the people's sins to those famous sins of the (now defunct) people of Sodom According to this list, it was primarily the Sodomites' pride and their failure to aid the poor amidst their own prosperity that caused God to smite them. (The "abominable things" may also refer to Sodom's licentiousness, but this is not certain.) As a result, a great many interpreters read the story of Lot quite differently. He had settled in a city of haughty, wealthy, but inhospitable and tight-fisted people. In such circumstances. Lot was, if anything, a victim of the Sodomites, since, as a newcomer and a stranger, he was likely to suffer from their lack of hospitality ..."
James L. Kugel, The Bible as It Was (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1998), 187.

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