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Ecclesiastes

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Chapter 8

1 Who is a wise person? Who knows the solution to a problem? A person’s wisdom brightens his appearance and softens his harsh countenance. 2 Obey the king’s command, because you took an oath before God to be loyal to him. 3 Do not rush out of the king’s presence in haste—do not delay when the matter is unpleasant, for he can do whatever he pleases. 4 Surely the king’s authority is absolute; no one can say to him, “What are you doing?”⁠ 5 Whoever obeys his command will not experience harm, and a wise person knows the proper time and procedure. 6 For there is a proper time and procedure for every matter, for the oppression of the king is severe upon his victim. 7 Surely no one knows the future, and no one can tell another person what will happen. 8 Just as no one has power over the wind to restrain it, so no one has power over the day of his death. Just as no one can be discharged during the battle, so wickedness cannot rescue the wicked. 9 While applying my mind to everything that happens in this world, I have seen all this: Sometimes one person dominates other people to their harm. 10 Not only that, but I have seen the wicked approaching and entering the temple,⁠ and as they left the holy temple, they boasted in the city that they had done so. This also is an enigma. 11 When a sentence is not executed at once against a crime, the human heart is full to do evil.47⁠ 12 Even though a sinner might commit a hundred crimes and still live a long time, yet I know that it will go well with God-fearing people—for they stand in fear before him.⁠ 13 But it will not go well with the wicked, nor will they prolong their days like a shadow, because they do not stand in fear before God. 14 Here is another enigma that occurs on earth: Sometimes there are righteous people who get what the wicked deserve, and sometimes there are wicked people who get what the righteous deserve.⁠ I said, “This also is an enigma.” 15 So I recommend the enjoyment of life, for there is nothing better on earth for a person to do except to eat, drink, and enjoy life.⁠ So joy will accompany him in his toil during the days of his life that God gives him on earth. 16 When I tried to gain wisdom and to observe the activity on earth—even though it prevents anyone from sleeping day or night— 17 then I discerned all that God has done: No one really comprehends what happens on earth. Despite all human efforts to discover it, no one can ever grasp it. Even if a wise person claimed that he understood, he would not really comprehend it.

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Compare Ecclesiastes 2:2 and Ecclesiastes 8:15 and Shabbat 30b

Hebrew Bible · Rabbinic

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Summary

Ecclesiastes presents distinct perspectives on pleasure and meaning, where enjoyment is both futile and worthwhile. Many readers saw this tension as problematic, with Rabbinic tradition in tractate Shabbat discussing how to resolve the contradictions.

Passages

Ecclesiastes 2:2

Hebrew Bible
1 I thought to myself, “Come now, I will try self-indulgent pleasure to see if it is worthwhile.” But I found that it also is futile. 2 I said of partying, “It is folly,” and of self-indulgent pleasure, “It accomplishes nothing!” 3 I thought deeply about the effects of indulging myself with wine(all the while my mind was guiding me with wisdom) and the effects of behaving foolishly, so that I might discover what is profitable for people to do on earth during the few days of their lives.
300–201 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Ecclesiastes

Ecclesiastes 8:15

Hebrew Bible
14 Here is another enigma that occurs on earth: Sometimes there are righteous people who get what the wicked deserve, and sometimes there are wicked people who get what the righteous deserve. I said, “This also is an enigma.” 15 So I recommend the enjoyment of life, for there is nothing better on earth for a person to do except to eat, drink, and enjoy life. So joy will accompany him in his toil during the days of his life that God gives him on earth. 16 When I tried to gain wisdom and to observe the activity on earth—even though it prevents anyone from sleeping day or night—
300–201 BCE (scholarly estimate) Read in Ecclesiastes

Shabbat 30b

Rabbinic · Babylonian Talmud
Since contradictions in Ecclesiastes were mentioned, the Gemara cites additional relevant sources. Rav Yehuda, son of Rav Shmuel bar Sheilat, said in the name of Rav: The Sages sought to suppress the book of Ecclesiastes and declare it apocryphal because its statements contradict each other and it is liable to confuse its readers. And why did they not suppress it? Because its beginning consists of matters of Torah and its end consists of matters of Torah. The ostensibly contradictory details are secondary to the essence of the book, which is Torah.
450–550 CE (scholarly estimate) Read in Shabbat

References

"... The Book of Ecclesiastes abounds in inconsistency. Commentators count between twenty and thirty contradictions. The problem of internal contradictions in Qohelet has been addressed in a famous pericope in the Babylonian Talmud (b. Shabbat 30b) ... A book of philosophy that contradicts itself did not make sense to the classical rabbis, as R. Abraham Ibn Ezra explains in his commentary on Ecclesiastes 7:3: “It is well known that even the merest of thinkers will not compose a book in which he contradicts himself.” The rabbis therefore resolved the contradictions by assigning a different context to each apparently contradictory proposition ..."
Edward L. Greenstein, “Sages with a Sense of Humor: The Babylonian Dialogue between a Master and His Servant and the Book of Qohelet,” in Wisdom Literature in Mesopotamia and Israel, ed. Richard J. Clifford, SymS 36 (Atlanta: SBL, 2007), 55–65.

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